Règles : Lightsaber Design - sdm - 07-04-2005
Bof, tu vois Ben Kenobi passer à la tatanne pure ?
Je dis pas qu'il ne maîtrise pas la forme V mais qu'il la juge certainement comme trop dangereuse.
Ta philosophie se retrouve dans ta technique, Mace Windu est une brutasse il n'utilsera pas la II ou la III même s'il les connaît. Alors changer en plein combat je suis pas convaincu
Règles : Lightsaber Design - Darth Nico - 07-04-2005
Non, c'est vrai, ya pas trop d'exemple dans les films. Sauf à la limite Darth Maul, qui doit osciller entre les IV et VII.
Mais bon, ça me paraîtrait intéressant d'envisager des changements.
Règles : Lightsaber Design - sdm - 07-04-2005
Je veux bien croire en certains changements mais pas en d'autres, en gros si on classe les technique en plutôt défensif, plutôt neutre et plutôt offensif je ne vois pas un jedi passer d'une def à une off et vice-versa. A moins de basculer du côté obscur en plein combat
Règles : Lightsaber Design - sdm - 07-04-2005
Darth Nico,07/04/2005 à 23:48 Wrote:Non, c'est vrai, ya pas trop d'exemple dans les films. Sauf à la limite Darth Maul, qui doit osciller entre les IV et VII.
Mais bon, ça me paraîtrait intéressant d'envisager des changements.  Il a pas une technique de combat Sith Darth Maul ?
Règles : Lightsaber Design - Darth Nico - 07-04-2005
Bah, je crois que c'est la IV ou la VII avec un double-sabre.
Règles : Lightsaber Design - sdm - 08-04-2005
On dirait qu'elle des noms officiels ces formes :
I: Shii-Cho
II: Makashi
III:Soresu
IV: Ataru
V: Shien
VI: Niman
VII: Juyo
Règles : Lightsaber Design - Darth Nico - 08-04-2005
Pour la VII, je connaissais Vaapad.
Source ?
Règles : Lightsaber Design - sdm - 08-04-2005
Un truc du genre 
Quote:The following info on lighsaber techniques is collected from articles in the official Starwars Insider magazine. So in way, you can consider them more or less canonical. I didn't put the information together (just tidied it up slightly and corrected one or two typos), so I take no credit for it.
Hope it's of interest to you guys.
Form Zero
Originally defined by Jedi Master Yoda to describe the lightsaber technique of Felanil Baaks, Form Zero became the basis for the instruction of lightsaber combat. In its simplest form, Form Zero is the art of wielding a lightsaber which had not been ignited. While it seemed silly to many padawan learners, the underlying message could not be ignored. In order for a Jedi to protect and serve the galaxy, they must know when to ignite their lightsaber for combat, and when to leave the weapon at his side. The understanding of another being's situation was key to the knowledge of right and wrong, and any student who could understand the necessity of Form Zero and use it to mediate a solution - without resorting to violence - was truly gifted with the Force.
Form I
Known as Shii-Cho, this was the simplest form of lightsaber combat techniques studied by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic, and was generally considered the first form used by the original creators of ligthsabers. Sometimes called the ideal form, Form I used horizontal side-swipes and parries made with the blade of the lightsaber held upright to push the point of an enemy's blade away during a side-to-side attack. If the attack is a downward slash aimed at the head, Form I simply reversed the motion, with a horizontally-held lightsaber being moved up and down to deflect a blow. All the basic ideals of attack, parry, target zones, and practice drills were created with the Form I style.
Form II
Known as Makashi, this ancient Jedi Knight lightsaber combat technique was developed when pikes and staves were more common in the galaxy. Form II emphasized fluid motion and anticipation of a weapon being swung at its target, allowing the Jedi to attack and defend with minimal effort. Although many Jedi historians considered Form II to be the ultimate refinement in lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat, it was dropped in favor of Form III combat when blaster weapons became prevalent in the galaxy.
Form III
Known as Soresu, this was a lightsaber dueling technique developed by the Jedi Knights, after blaster weapons became the normal weapon of choice among criminals and underworld beings. Unlike Form II combat, which was developed to work against another lightsaber, Form III was most effective in anticipating and deflecting blaster fire. It stressed quick reflexes and fast positional transition, in order to overcome the rapidity with which a blaster could be fired. It was essentially a defensive technique, emphasizing the non-aggressive Jedi philosophy while reducing the exposed areas of their bodies. In the wake of the death of Qui-Gon Jinn at the hands of Darth Maul, many Jedi turned away from the Form IV style of open, acrobatic fighting and took up Form III in order to minimize the risk of injury or death at the hands of an opportunistic opponent.
Form IV
Known as Ataru, this was one of the more recent lightsaber combat techniques, developed by the Jedi Knights during the last decades of the Old Republic. It emphasized acrobatic strength and power in wielding the blade, attributes which were frowned upon by many traditional Jedi Knights and Masters. It found a niche among the eager padawan learners of the time, who believed that the Jedi needed to become more involved in rooting out crime and evil and eradicating it. This Form was practiced by Qui-Gon Jinn, although his death at the hands of Darth Maul exposed the weakness of Form IV in defending a Jedi's body. Yoda, however, practiced Form IV with such speed that, when coupled with his small size, left an enemy with no undefended parts of his body.
Form V
Known as Shien, this was one of the seven primary forms of lightsaber combat developed by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic. Form V was developed by a group of Jedi Masters who felt that Form III was too passive, while Form IV was not powerful enough. It addressed the shortcomings of both forms, in which a Jedi Master may have proved to be undefeatable but could not overcome the enemy. Among the many unique aspects of Form V was the development of techniques in which the lightsaber was used to deflect a blaster bolt directly back at the firer, deliberately to cause harm to the opponent. Many Jedi Masters debated the philosophy of Form V, claiming that it directed inappropriate focus on hurting another being. Others claimed that Form V was simply a way to "achieve peace through superior firepower."
Form VI
Known as Niman, this was one of the most advanced of the seven primary forms of lightsaber combat developed by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic. At the time of the Battle of Geonosis, Form VI was the standard in Jedi fighting techniques, emphasizing the use of techniques from Forms I, II, IV, and V in overall moderation. Many Jedi Masters considered it the "diplomat's form", since the user used their knowledge of political strategy and negotiation - along with their own perceptions - to reach a peaceful decision with minimal bloodshed. Many Jedi skilled in Form VI techniques had already spent at least ten years studying the other four Forms, an aspect that many Masters felt was too demanding of the Jedi's time in regards to its benefits on the battlefield.
Form VII
Known as Juyo, this lightsaber combat technique was one of the most demanding of all the forms developed by the Jedi Knights. Only through the learning of several other forms can a Jedi begin to understand Form VII, which involved so much physical combat ability that its training brought a Jedi very close to the Dark Side of the Force. Jedi Master Mace Windu studied the Form VII technique. To master Form VII, a Jedi had to employ bold movements and be more kinetic than in any other form. Form VII employed the use of overwhelming power directed through unconnected, staccato movements that kept an opponent continually off-guard.
Shii-Cho
This was the ancient term used to describe the Form I lightsaber fighting style.
Makashi
This was the ancient term used to describe the Form II lightsaber fighting style.
Soresu
This was the ancient term used to describe the Form III lightsaber fighting style.
Ataru
This was the ancient term used to describe the Form IV lightsaber fighting style.
Shien
This was the ancient term used to describe the Form V lightsaber fighting style. Note that the Shien style of fighting was unique, with a Jedi holding their lightsaber horizontally. The tip of the blade was pointed at the opponent, and was swung in a quick arc as the Jedi punched their sword-hand at their opponent.
Djem So
This was an alternative name for the Form V (Shien) style of lightsaber combat.
Niman
This was the ancient term used to describe the Form VI lightsaber fighting style. Note that the Niman style of fighting was unique, allowing a Jedi to wield two lightsabers at once. One blade was always used for offense, while the other could be used for parrying or for additional attacks. Although many Jedi trained in the Niman style to gain basic knowledge of a two-bladed atatck, very few ever mastered it completely.
Juyo
This was the ancient term used to describe the Form VII lightsaber fighting style.
Sokan
This form of lightsaber combat was developed by the ancient Jedi Knights. It combined the kinetic motions of Form IV combat with tactics that allowed for mobility and evasion. Originally created during the Great Sith War, Sokan involved quick movements and tumbles, as well as swift strokes of the lightsaber aimed at an opponent's vital areas. Battles which involved Sokan techniques could range across large amounts of terrain as combatants worked to maneruver their opponent into a vulnerable position.
Vaapad
This lightsaber combat was developed by Mace Windu, with the assistance of Sora Bulq, during the years leading up to the Clone Wars. It was an aggressive collection of maneuvers, and was considered to be part of the Form VII category. As such, the Vaapad training was considered extremely close to the Dark Side of the Force, and was forbidden to all but the most skilled of Jedi Masters. To Master Windu and his apprentice, Depa Billaba, Vaapad was more than a combat style; it was a state of mind in which the fighter opened themselves so fully to the Force to fight their opponent that they drew power from both the light and dark sides of the Force. The style was named for the vaapad creature found on Sarapin. It was all but abandoned after Sora Bulq was consumed by the art in what became known as the blood fever, and himself abandoned the Jedi Order.
Dun Möch
This was the Sith lightsaber combat doctrine of totally dominating an opponent's spirit by whatever means possible. Dun möch usually involved verbal taunts and jests that exposed an opponent's inner doubts and weaknesses. Other forms of dun möch involved the use of the Force to hurl heavy objects at an opponent during combat, distracting the opponent from the true battle.
Marks of Contact
This was the term used by the Jedi Knights to describe the target objectives of lightsaber combat. Each of the seven Forms of lightsaber combat have the same marks of contact, which include sun djem, shiim, shiak, and cho mai.
Cho Mai
Cho mai was one of the more preferred forms of striking an opponent with a lightsaber. The Jedi Knight who employed a cho mai attack cut off an opponent's weapon hand, eliminating the threat of attack while causing minimal physical damage. In addition to the fact that cho mai caused little harm to the opponent, it showed great skill and respect on the part of the Jedi who executed the maneuver. The precision required to complete cho mai indicated a Jedi's skill and technique.
Shiak
This was one of the most honorable of the Jedi Knights' "marks of combat." Shiak was stabbing of an opponent with the tip of the lightsaber blade, causing little physical damage while inflicting a fatal blow. Many Jedi Masters felt that shiak showed as much respect as possible for the Living Force as well as one's opponent, since it dispatched the opponent without destroying much living tissue.
Shiim
This was one of the "marks of combat" defined by the Jedi Knights for lightsaber combat. Shiim was the use of the edge of a lightsaber blade to inflict a wound on the opponent's body. Many Jedi Masters considered shiim to be an inferior form of mark, since it suggested a Jedi's indecision in battle and the superiority of one's opponent.
Sun Djem
This was one of the "marks of combat" defined by the Jedi Knights as part of their lightsaber combat training. Sun djem involved the disarming of a opponent without causing physical injury. While sun djem was one of the basic objectives of Form I combat, the focus of subsequent Forms on the control of one's lightsaber made sun djem all but impossible against another Jedi.
Jung Ma
This was the term used by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic to describe a 360-degree turn employed during lightsaber combat. Similar to the Jung turn, the Jung Ma turn provided the Jedi with added power during a stroke of the lightsaber blade. Jung Ma was part of the dulon form of training utilized by the Jedi.
Shun
This was the term used by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic to describe a one-handed grip on a lightsaber, which is then spun through a 360-degree arc to gain speed for an attack during lightsaber combat.
Sai
This was the term used by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic to describe a Force-assisted jump, employed to evade an attack on the legs during lightsaber combat.
Règles : Lightsaber Design - Darth Nico - 08-04-2005
Pour les formes de coups, sho mai, sun djem etc. j'ai lu ça aussi sur l'Holonet. 
Remarque, là ils disent que le Vaapad est une variante de la VII créée par Mace Windu.
Comment il se l'accorde ! 
Règles : Lightsaber Design - sdm - 08-04-2005
Je sens que va tenter de se l'accorder aussi remarque
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